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Base Goku(EoZ) & SSJ2 Gohan(post Z Sword) vs. SSJ2 Gotenks(pre)
Topic Started: Mar 30 2013, 04:52 PM (1,867 Views)
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Gotenks can power up to SSJ3 if necessary.

Who wins?
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Gotenks SSJ1(Pre) >SSJ3 Goku>=base Goku EOZ

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SSj2 Gotenks > SSj Gotenks > SSj3 Goku ~> SSj2 Gohan [post Z Sword]

SSj2 will do it easily
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yeah gotenks wins, unless he messes around and diffuses, hes going to win
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There is no indication that SSJ Gotenks (Pre) is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. I'd say Base Goku EoZ is at least SSJ2 Goku Boo arc tier. But not enough to beat SSJ Gotenks, with or without Gohan.

SSJ3 Goku>~SSJ Gotenks~Post Z-Sword Gohan>Base Goku EOZ.
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Gotenks stomps, ssj gotenks pre>>goku ssj3>>ssj2 post z sword gohan>>base goku (EOZ)=good buu
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Mar 30 2013, 05:02 PM
There is no indication that SSJ Gotenks (Pre) is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. I'd say Base Goku EoZ is at least SSJ2 Goku Boo arc tier. But not enough to beat SSJ Gotenks, with or without Gohan.

SSJ3 Goku>~SSJ Gotenks~Post Z-Sword Gohan>Base Goku EOZ.
Goku predicted that gotenks was gonna be stronger than him and nobody contradict it, piccolo also said that gotenks had an incredible ki even after he sensed ssj3 goku and fat buu
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Emmeth
Mar 30 2013, 05:02 PM
There is no indication that SSJ Gotenks (Pre) is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. I'd say Base Goku EoZ is at least SSJ2 Goku Boo arc tier. But not enough to beat SSJ Gotenks, with or without Gohan.

SSJ3 Goku>~SSJ Gotenks~Post Z-Sword Gohan>Base Goku EOZ.
Goku stated gotenks would be stronger than himself as an SSJ.... Gotenks Forms as an SSJ and piccolo says his power is incredible and ask about his speed which he than flys faster than anything piccolo has seen.
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mecha , u got ur power chain wrong
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at emmeth, there is a statment by gokus own admission that says gotenks is stronger and thats what most people use

so tahts why they say gotenks ssj pre is stronger then ssj 3 goku but i dont believe that at all because of other reasons
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Mar 30 2013, 05:05 PM
at emmeth, there is a statment by gokus own admission that says gotenks is stronger and thats what most people use

so tahts why they say gotenks ssj pre is stronger then ssj 3 goku but i dont believe that at all because of other reasons
Piccolo never contradicted goku when Gotenks Formed...
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I can't find that quote anywhere. Goku never says they will become stronger than him.
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i dont want to get into this i have received 4 warnings about this topic cause i get heated

so i shall refrain, i rather like my eliteship but i will say this, IF gotenks is stronger it cant be by a large margin because piccolos never says go fight buu or anything

instead he says show me your speed, why ask about his speed in the first place if he was stronger, if he was truly stronger then he would have said go fight

but had his doubts now that is key. next he says your ki is amazing, well so what gokus was too. he never said your ki is ready or perfect to fight buu.

piccolo has doubts, piccolo never had doubts from goku
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Mar 30 2013, 05:09 PM
I can't find that quote anywhere. Goku never says they will become stronger than him.
Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P9.3
Piccolo: “If that bastard felt like it, he could wipe out the entire Earth, up here included, in the blink of an eye…!”
Goku: “It’s alright, I don’t think he’ll take out the Earth. After all, I told him that in 2 days, someone stronger than me would fight him, and he seemed happy…”
And Piccolo was impressed by gotenks ki even when he felt ssj3 goku and faat buu power before
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Piccolo said that gotenks power was good but he only questioned speed, when gotenks went to fight buu piccolo was only worried that gotenks had 1 minute left, piccolo said that gotenks ki was incredible even AFTER he sensed ssj3 goku power
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but he never said he was ready and had doubts when he felt the ki

also read the translators note on the subject

Chapter: 476 (DBZ 282), P9.3
Piccolo: “If that bastard felt like it, he could wipe out the entire Earth, up here included, in the blink of an eye…!”
Goku: “It’s alright, I don’t think he’ll take out the Earth. After all, I told him that in 2 days, someone stronger than me would fight him, and he seemed happy…”
Note: Goku actually never told Boo this (apparently he's gone senile in the afterlife).

so that could also be interpreted as a mistake in the series, cause goku never actually did say that to buu

or maybe gokus lying for a greater purpose dunno
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